Please sell PODIO - it's dying a slow and painful death

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    Sara Høeg Højlund-Rasmussen

    Update to Podio ownership: Podio is no longer related to Citrix Products or brand - Podio is a part of the ShareFile Business, an independent business unit in the Cloud Software Group.

    The ShareFile Business owns 3 products, ShareFile, Podio and RightSignature - so ShareFile is our new "mother" brand - while the Podio product name and brand will continue supporting the standalone product. We are a part of the ShareFile business and will continue to be.

    You can read more details in this news article by our General Manager, Kurt Heusner, leading the ShareFile Business Unit within the Cloud Software Group:

    ShareFile Independence

    The ShareFile brand is focusing on integrations like the RightSignature solution for digital e-signatures and Podio, a low/no-code solution for workflow and team collaboration. They’re also working on establishing solutions for specific industry verticals. The company announced ShareFile for Accounting in June and followed up with ShareFile for Legal this past August.

    “The transformation has allowed us to singularly focus on how do we do business the most effectively with our customers with the absolute best experience we can for them,” said Heusner. “A lot of it’s been around simplification and concentrating on what helps them to be effective and how they want to interact with us.”

    This has other benefits as well.

    “It’s exciting because, for the employee base, we get to really concentrate on our products.”

     

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  • Antony Smith

    It's almost like Podio has been marked EOL, support only, but no one wants to admit it. Maybe there's a replacement that keeps getting delayed.

     

    So bizarre I just don't get it.

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  • Tue Roth

    Hi Sara, thanks for your reply. 


    Well, looking at your product news it speaks for itself.
    Lets see:

    Brand updates
    Co location of servers
    Custom margins in the PDF generator
    Celebrating growtn…. updates…
    A new PDF engine that i guess only make more work for me having to manually update everything. 
    Notification update
    Etc.

    These are pretty much all non-finctional updates and minor fixes.

    Where are the dynamic webforms, where are the controls to set op more advanced and sectioned webforms and color schemes, where are the app-level user management, where is the app integration that doesn't require partners and customers to sign up for podio and get bugged by autogenerated emails to start building apps (I know WAU is there, but it is also not maintained and so is not working), where at the dashboards and where are the userlogs to prevent misuse...?

    Perhaps you could share just a couple of upcoming features that you thing are beneficial to the community? 
    Also Sara - did you ask the top management regarding the open source suggestion or selling it? What was the response?

    All the best, 

    Tue 


    Could you comment on your roadmap for features and how many developers you have. 
    And also which functional features you have implemented in the last 5 years. 

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  • Sara Høeg Højlund-Rasmussen

    Hi Lisa,

    Thanks for the questions. Citrix Workspace is not a replacement of Podio, this is a place to unify apps in a secure container like your Podio apps alongside other applications (for example if you are also using QuickBooks, Slack or Microsoft etc). It might not be relevant for your organization but some business will be using Podio next to other SaaS applications or virtual apps & desktops to work remotely, for these companies it is a benefit to be able to view and take action to data from Podio next to other applications.

    Yes, Podio workflow automation or Procfu flows can still be created, which can trigger Podio workflows or Forms in Citrix Workspace as well.

    We have a large team taking care of Podio and ensuring the platform will continue to scale and grow. Again, happy to meet for a private roadmap review to share more details. We have been focused on backend stability enhancements, and is now in a better place to take the product to the future as automation and usage continue to grow.

    Feel free contact me directly using sara.hoeg@citrix.com with a few timeslots for next week and willing to sign our mutual NDA: https://www.citrix.com/about/legal/nda.html 

    // Sara - Happy Thanksgiving!

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  • Sara Høeg Højlund-Rasmussen

    Hey Mark,

    Also want to highlight a new solutions page for Citrix Work Solution including Podio - new messaging just went live today: https://www.citrix.com/solutions/small-business.html 

    Cheers,

    Sara

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  • Lisa von Sturmer

    I feel exactly the same way.  I don't want to leave - globiflow is amazing and we use it extensively - but I've been a user since 2013 and at the time it was cutting edge... and now it's just limping along.  I don't want to move everything over (and the headache of having to try to rebuild all these workflows etc... I'm dreading it...) but other platforms are obviously continuing to evolve and grow.  Podio is just stagnant.  It's so frustrating.  I wish they would make it open source and I could hire someone to redo the UX.

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  • Sara Høeg Højlund-Rasmussen

    Hi Tue, Antony and Lisa,

    We're still here and no plans to EOL Podio, we will continue to develop and improve the platform.

    Today we updated with a long overdue feature for two-step verification - read more details here: https://help.podio.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360009916900-Two-Step-Verification-to-prevent-unauthorised-access- 

    Please also see this video with a vision for how Citrix is evolving the future of work with well-being in mind, Podio is very much a part of this vision as we showcased to the recent Citrix Workspace Summit. A more detailed demo video is available here.

    Appreciate your feedback and hope you will continue to provide feedback to us.

    Thanks,

    Sara - Citrix

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  • Antony Smith

    Sara, the disquiet around Podio is pretty clear. Plus it's ironic that the most activity this forum has seen in some time is due to people complaining about the stagnation of the product.

    I think the only thing that'll wash with the likes of myself, Tue and Lisa would be some sort of actual roadmap. No more vague "bear with us", "in a few months" blah blah that's been repeated literally for years.

    Weirdly Citrix have product a lifecycle matrix which does not show Podio, and all the while pretty much all your competitors in this space publish roadmaps so what is there to hide?

    https://www.citrix.com/support/product-lifecycle/product-matrix.html

    Our continued use of the product is pretty much hanging by a thread now.

    Look forward you your response.

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  • Antony Smith

    Oh and I watched both the videos and have no idea what they have to do with Podio

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  • Sara Høeg Højlund-Rasmussen

    Happy to meet for a private roadmap review if you contact me directly using sara.hoeg@citrix.com with a few timeslots for next week and willing to sign our mutual NDA: https://www.citrix.com/about/legal/nda.html 

    The lifecycle product matrix is for products with on-prem releases or client applications (desktop clients etc) that will stop maintenance for security reasons as new builds are being released. Podio is cloud only with no on-prem or legacy client applications and therefore not relevant on this list.

    We could include old versions of mobile apps but have not been relevant for us as most users automatically update to new versions as OS will be retired on mobile devices.

    //Sara - Podio

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  • Lisa von Sturmer

    So... do globiflow / procfu work with citrix workspaces?  If not, you're really hamstringing those of us that have built businesses that rely on podio. 

    Just today an employee accidentally posted confidential financial information on the wrong chat and there is *ZERO* way to delete the message they posted. 

    If anyone else has other suggestions for programs with similar functionality to podio, I'm all ears. 

    Honestly Sara, your messages are all about Citrix (which obviously we're not using) - does it have the same functionality?!  Can we transition over?  Is that even possible or will we lose everything we've spent $$$ building when we try to move to another platform that not only has customer service, but actually allows you to edit or delete chat messages :/ 

    It's disingenuous for you to dangle a carrot in front of users saying "there's updates coming!" when you know that there's probably only 5 ppl at Citrix that just "maintain" podio.  Meanwhile we continue to waste resources on a platform that is slated for going offline, or to simply operate as-is indefinitely.   

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  • Sumedha Panwar

    Hi all,

    For any further questions on product vision and updates, please join us for the upcoming Product Update webinar on Tuesday, July 19, 2021 at 10:30am ET / 4:30pm CET / 8pm IST.  More details and registration link here.

    //Sumedha - Product Manager, Podio 

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  • Mark Cannon

    Why is Podio not on this page?

    https://www.citrix.com/products/

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  • Scott Anderson

    I woke up today, logged in and immediately noticed the top banner of Podio which used to read 'Citrix Podio'... today it only says 'Podio'.  ???? 

    Why the sudden change Sara Høeg Højlund-Rasmussen

    There are a lot of us that have invested A LOT into Podio and are very nervous about its stagnation for years now.  This sudden change is yet another thing making my brain run wild with, "What's the heck is going on with Citrix and Podio???"   

    Please let us know.  Thank you. 

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  • Sara Høeg Højlund-Rasmussen

    Hi Scott,

    Good question - mostly just us showcasing that we are now separating as a business away from Citrix and operating as standalone product in the Cloud Software Group. We had a change in ownership of Citrix and Podio, which was announced to the public in 2022 - Citrix was acquired and went private - now operating within the Cloud Software Group (CSG) as a privately held company. Citrix is now a separate business within CSG and Podio operating within the ShareFile business unit as a part of the ShareFile portfolio.

    We have today removed the Citrix brand as our business is being separated from those products, and now only align with ShareFile and RightSignature.

    Cheers,

    Sara

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  • Scott Anderson

    Admittedly, I missed the news about Citrix being acquired.  Not sure how I missed that but...  Thanks for the explanation Sara. 

    When I went on the CSG website and drilled into it and into the Sharefile website as well.. there is absolutely no mention of Podio that I could find on either.  Citrix, and now the new owners, must certainly know what the optics must look like to their clients regarding Podio.  What can you share about Podio's future?  Thank you. 

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